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Bin Laden news engineered- to what ends?

Posted by PhoenixGodwin - May 2nd, 2011


No matter how you look at it, the news that has been released to the public has been engineered- that is to say that deliberate decisions were made as to when, how, and how much of this information would be released.

A lot of people seem really excited about these recent events, but I would like the peace at mind that The People aren't getting fucked with. Afterwards I really won't care, but until then I wish it were easier to find any of the actual evidence that it happened besides the fact that our news and government says it happened. For example, I hate that the only death photo I can find right now is this.

I'm not trying to make any inferences myself, but I encourage everyone to do their own digging. It's responsible, and that way everyone will see if things start to not add up quite the way they should. I cannot stress enough my frustration that there aren't tons of details easily accessible by now.

Don't get me wrong. Most likely Osama is dead. Either that or or he's fine but in a situation where if all goes well no one who matters will ever see or hear from him again. If there's any information to be legitimately questioned in non-rhetorical ways here it's when Osama was killed.

But we don't know when or how or where or anything. We know that we've just been told about his death- and that's it.

Here is the link to the official story page for MSNBC that is constantly being updated.

According to that article "The special operations forces were on the ground for less than 40 minutes and the operation was watched in real-time by CIA director Leon Panetta"

If that's the case I want the footage- unedited and unadulterated. There's not even the slightest reason to doubt that the footage exists because obviously whatever feed Panetta would have used to oversee the operation would have been backed up in case they needed it for anything- like proving to the world that they killed Osama Bin Laden at the time and place they said they did. And hey, maybe they did all of that and they just haven't seen any reason to make that footage public- or pictures of his dead body. Well if that's the case, here's me asking nicely for the government to get their butts in gear and give us the evidence. If that arduous asshole Donald Trump could get Obama to provide something as silly and trivial as proof that he is indeed an American citizen, then I don't see this being too far-fetched of a request by any means.

I want a full autopsy that includes the time of death. I want confirmed DNA tests from multiple sources- oh wait they don't have a cadaver anymore.

What?! What in the world were you possibly thinking, Government? Get rid of the only physical proof as to when the body died and who they were? Well surely you at least have your own DNA test results you can show us-

Oh...

According to the above article- and others like it, the DNA testing is still underway. It's not just me, right? Doesn't that seem insanely stupid?

I'm not trying to run around crying about the government lying to us or the sky falling- I'm just saying that we have been given very selective bits of information that leave a lot of things up in the air to be questioned. Right now we have no information about this incident because it hasn't been provided. The responsible thing to do is to pay attention. Research everything they say and do regarding this event, because this is a crucial point in history. If this has been lied about, the only way we would ever know is by persistently investigating all relevant information (which I believe they'll give us on their own time, when they've had sufficient time to "engineer" the information to suit applicable needs) and ravenously jumping on any inconsistencies like a dingo on a baby. Only at that point will we be able to take the next step and actually find out WHY they would be lying to us.

But until then we have nothing, really. To assume anything for certain right now would be a fallacy.

-------------update 5-4-2011-------------------

This is a follow up to the initial article found here.

It's been a day now and we still don't have any pictures. This isn't an issue of morbidity or personal satisfaction- it's about Truth. There's really no good reason for the 'debate' to have gone on this long, and evidence needs to be available to those who want it. An iron curtain on our own government is absolutely unacceptable.

For those who bring up the idea that the U.S. is concerned about antagonizing potential terrorists, that's a bullshit scapegoat argument. This is a country notorious for not negotiating with terrorist- that is to say that generally speaking we don't give a damn what they think, and if they don't like it they can go straight to hell.

Who here remembers Abu al-Zarqawi? After we assassinated him pictures of the body were released. And you know what? We didn't just dump him off in the ocean either. I'm pretty sure he wasn't even buried within 24 hrs of his death.

The thing is, a picture (especially at this point) really wouldn't be enough to be accepted as credible evidence by most people who already have doubts. That's part of what bothers me. I feel like the government would be smart enough to realize that not releasing the pictures would stir a significant amount of distrust whether it's unwarranted or not- especially since they got rid of the body so quickly.

I honestly believe they should release the video footage of the raid that the CIA most likely has (unless they did something else with particularly poor foresight- but I highly doubt that). This wouldn't really endanger anyone involved in the operation. We wouldn't be able to see the SEAL's faces, I'm sure. Any names could easily be removed, and they have a dynamic enough tactical system to where I doubt their general strategy could really be compromised by releasing it. Since the body is gone this is probably the only real substantial proof the people should accept. If the government cared about how much The People trust them (which it is of my strong opinion that they should) then they would be doing that, but they're not. They might later, but the longer they take the easier it is to fake it, which is why I've been trying to get other people to pay attention.

Even if they have been completely honest with us the whole time and just haven't been completely open, I want them to change because as naive as it may sound to some I think the Truth is important. I know I'm not the only one.

Bin Laden news engineered- to what ends?


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